1 00:00:09,339 --> 00:00:06,639 as we prepare to venture deeper into 2 00:00:10,990 --> 00:00:09,349 space on long-duration missions there 3 00:00:13,180 --> 00:00:11,000 are lots of things to consider when it 4 00:00:15,430 --> 00:00:13,190 comes to just how much the crews will be 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:15,440 able to take along with them Lori Meggs 6 00:00:20,380 --> 00:00:18,050 is at the payload operations integration 7 00:00:22,570 --> 00:00:20,390 Center at NASA's Marshall Space Flight 8 00:00:24,790 --> 00:00:22,580 Center to talk about one of the things 9 00:00:27,930 --> 00:00:24,800 that is very near and dear to her heart 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:27,940 and one of her favorites close lori 11 00:00:32,139 --> 00:00:30,650 that's right but wouldn't it be a lot 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:32,149 easier if we could just wear the same 13 00:00:35,140 --> 00:00:33,650 clothes every day until we got tired of 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:35,150 them and then throw them away well 15 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:36,890 that's how it works for crewmembers on 16 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:38,690 the space station and until now it's 17 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:40,490 never really been studied as to how long 18 00:00:45,069 --> 00:00:43,130 they wear their clothes but it's vital 19 00:00:48,430 --> 00:00:45,079 information as we go deeper and farther 20 00:00:49,870 --> 00:00:48,440 into space but in order to wear your 21 00:00:51,850 --> 00:00:49,880 clothes longer well you've got to find 22 00:00:53,950 --> 00:00:51,860 that right fabric and that's where a 23 00:00:54,990 --> 00:00:53,960 three-year advanced clothing study comes 24 00:01:00,850 --> 00:00:55,000 in 25 00:01:02,530 --> 00:01:00,860 look at the types of clothes that we 26 00:01:04,270 --> 00:01:02,540 need to send for astronauts and 27 00:01:05,500 --> 00:01:04,280 crewmembers to wear as we go further to 28 00:01:07,450 --> 00:01:05,510 asteroids and to Mars 29 00:01:09,790 --> 00:01:07,460 Evelyn Orndorff is actually studying 30 00:01:12,130 --> 00:01:09,800 this and your textile engineer tell us 31 00:01:18,130 --> 00:01:12,140 what we're looking at here we are 32 00:01:22,230 --> 00:01:18,140 looking at the three years of studies on 33 00:01:24,910 --> 00:01:22,240 different clothes that we would like to 34 00:01:27,789 --> 00:01:24,920 select from for those long-duration 35 00:01:30,250 --> 00:01:27,799 missions that will take us to Mars so it 36 00:01:32,649 --> 00:01:30,260 was ground-based studies for about three 37 00:01:35,140 --> 00:01:32,659 years right right and and what did you 38 00:01:37,060 --> 00:01:35,150 find you found this row is actually 39 00:01:39,390 --> 00:01:37,070 better to send yes 40 00:01:43,149 --> 00:01:39,400 so in Space Station just in front of you 41 00:01:48,070 --> 00:01:43,159 are the different garments we actually 42 00:01:51,340 --> 00:01:48,080 send on orbit for expedition 39 and 40 43 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:51,350 was crew of three astronaut and three 44 00:01:55,450 --> 00:01:53,450 cosmonauts who wore those clothes some 45 00:01:58,929 --> 00:01:55,460 of these clothes I exercise clothing and 46 00:02:02,380 --> 00:01:58,939 the others were two of the t-shirts were 47 00:02:04,660 --> 00:02:02,390 used as routine wear over six 15 48 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:04,670 sessions and Darwin will explain that 49 00:02:09,369 --> 00:02:06,890 later what we're talking about and and 50 00:02:12,129 --> 00:02:09,379 this is pretty much basically what they 51 00:02:13,260 --> 00:02:12,139 exercise in and and maybe kind of wear 52 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:13,270 day-to-day just yeah 53 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:15,690 so we would say lounge clothes yes so 54 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:19,450 what was a shift was right there the to 55 00:02:25,110 --> 00:02:22,170 polyester their shorts and a polyester 56 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:25,120 t-shirt and they were used for exercise 57 00:02:29,910 --> 00:02:28,090 but then we also used wool for exercise 58 00:02:33,450 --> 00:02:29,920 because we'll as very interesting 59 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:33,460 properties in drying and actually after 60 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:35,890 it has dried it smells bad when it's wet 61 00:02:41,700 --> 00:02:38,770 but once dried it doesn't smell anything 62 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:41,710 and that's what we want when these when 63 00:02:45,300 --> 00:02:43,210 they're exercising when they're sweating 64 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:45,310 I mean how long do they typically wear 65 00:02:51,750 --> 00:02:48,610 their clothes right now well we have 66 00:02:55,110 --> 00:02:51,760 never captured that because in the crew 67 00:02:58,710 --> 00:02:55,120 catalog we recommend a certain usage 68 00:03:02,130 --> 00:02:58,720 rate and based on that rate we know when 69 00:03:06,030 --> 00:03:02,140 to resupply but we have never studied 70 00:03:07,980 --> 00:03:06,040 and asked any crew members all the way 71 00:03:09,690 --> 00:03:07,990 from shuttle program to a Space Station 72 00:03:11,220 --> 00:03:09,700 program how long they were the clothes 73 00:03:12,900 --> 00:03:11,230 so this is why we needed to do those 74 00:03:15,300 --> 00:03:12,910 studies it was very important we start 75 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:15,310 quantifying length of wear and it's 76 00:03:18,030 --> 00:03:16,690 pretty much a dream come true you just 77 00:03:19,980 --> 00:03:18,040 wear it as long as you can then you 78 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:19,990 throw it away right now but but that's 79 00:03:24,990 --> 00:03:21,490 not going to be possible as we go 80 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:25,000 farther correct basically using 81 00:03:31,650 --> 00:03:27,850 disposable clothing of a long duration 82 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:31,660 mission is heavy burden on the logistics 83 00:03:37,710 --> 00:03:35,530 and we cannot afford to use the same 84 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:37,720 type of garments on those long-duration 85 00:03:43,730 --> 00:03:40,570 missions that we've used so far in those 86 00:03:46,710 --> 00:03:43,740 missions like shuttle and station 87 00:03:50,970 --> 00:03:46,720 missions where you have constantly 88 00:03:53,340 --> 00:03:50,980 resupply of food and clothing and other 89 00:03:55,290 --> 00:03:53,350 consumables for some programs who had in 90 00:03:57,060 --> 00:03:55,300 the past we were on the forefront of 91 00:04:00,120 --> 00:03:57,070 textile technology we were not just 92 00:04:03,230 --> 00:04:00,130 using what's commercially available we 93 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:03,240 were designing for those spacecraft with 94 00:04:08,460 --> 00:04:06,610 travel and station we have ambient air 95 00:04:10,770 --> 00:04:08,470 so we can use the same thing we use on 96 00:04:12,750 --> 00:04:10,780 earth but we want to peak or at least 97 00:04:16,199 --> 00:04:12,760 what we did in no studies that led to a 98 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:16,209 selection of what went on the expedition 99 00:04:21,150 --> 00:04:19,570 39 and 40 that's based on the best 100 00:04:22,650 --> 00:04:21,160 that's available now and this is where 101 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:22,660 you see all these garments because 102 00:04:27,540 --> 00:04:24,370 before we selected these 103 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:27,550 we looked at what you see there with all 104 00:04:31,770 --> 00:04:30,130 these other fabrics all right we have 105 00:04:34,140 --> 00:04:31,780 the marina wool under this microscope 106 00:04:35,790 --> 00:04:34,150 and and this is the fabric that I was 107 00:04:38,100 --> 00:04:35,800 just holding and and that was what was 108 00:04:40,530 --> 00:04:38,110 selected for the study yes it's one of 109 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:40,540 the fabrics that was selected for the VA 110 00:04:45,210 --> 00:04:42,850 closing study and when we looked at 111 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:45,220 different types of wool the reason we 112 00:04:51,030 --> 00:04:48,250 chose merino is because they are the 113 00:04:52,590 --> 00:04:51,040 finest wool fibers as you touch the 114 00:04:55,290 --> 00:04:52,600 fabric you don't have the usual 115 00:04:59,460 --> 00:04:55,300 prettiness you have with the traditional 116 00:05:01,020 --> 00:04:59,470 rule like and cheap really smooth yes 117 00:05:02,430 --> 00:05:01,030 and so when you look at it under the 118 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:02,440 microscope then you see all of these 119 00:05:07,250 --> 00:05:03,970 really neat pictures here what you're 120 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:07,260 looking at there so what we look at 121 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:09,850 first because these were new products to 122 00:05:14,159 --> 00:05:12,370 us we looked at the type of neat 123 00:05:16,890 --> 00:05:14,169 construction these are all knitted goods 124 00:05:21,350 --> 00:05:16,900 that we have those merino wool fibers 125 00:05:27,540 --> 00:05:21,360 the wool industry has done lots of 126 00:05:30,330 --> 00:05:27,550 advances in making these fibers feel 127 00:05:32,370 --> 00:05:30,340 smoother and the you know touch when you 128 00:05:36,450 --> 00:05:32,380 touch it earlier you didn't realize it 129 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:36,460 was wool until we told you and so they 130 00:05:41,250 --> 00:05:39,130 also less likely to form those little 131 00:05:42,690 --> 00:05:41,260 pairs and they'll be more durable and 132 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:42,700 that's what we're looking for and we 133 00:05:47,850 --> 00:05:45,610 pick some products that were the best in 134 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:47,860 what was available commercially so these 135 00:05:52,010 --> 00:05:50,289 were the actual clothes used in the Ivy 136 00:05:55,860 --> 00:05:52,020 a clothing study tell us about that 137 00:05:58,740 --> 00:05:55,870 right the we we had a ground study that 138 00:06:01,469 --> 00:05:58,750 ran for about a year and a half when we 139 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:01,479 had 80 participants and there were we 140 00:06:05,969 --> 00:06:03,010 had them wear all sorts of different 141 00:06:09,210 --> 00:06:05,979 fabrics and that led us to choose the 142 00:06:11,159 --> 00:06:09,220 fabrics used in the space station study 143 00:06:15,210 --> 00:06:11,169 the Ivy a clothing study and and that's 144 00:06:16,529 --> 00:06:15,220 these right we chose feel that and you 145 00:06:19,379 --> 00:06:16,539 wouldn't believe that that's what was so 146 00:06:21,540 --> 00:06:19,389 yeah this this is merino wool it has a 147 00:06:24,659 --> 00:06:21,550 longer fiber and it's been specially 148 00:06:25,860 --> 00:06:24,669 processed and these are polyester right 149 00:06:27,540 --> 00:06:25,870 really really light 150 00:06:29,879 --> 00:06:27,550 polyester right right those are the 151 00:06:32,490 --> 00:06:29,889 lightest polyester that shorts that we 152 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:32,500 can buy on the market right yeah so so 153 00:06:35,909 --> 00:06:34,450 tell us what we what we looked for in 154 00:06:37,220 --> 00:06:35,919 this study on the space station how long 155 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:37,230 it went for and how many subject 156 00:06:41,180 --> 00:06:39,810 she had right well we had actually we 157 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:41,190 ended up with six subjects three 158 00:06:48,350 --> 00:06:45,810 astronauts and three cosmonauts and my 159 00:06:50,840 --> 00:06:48,360 understanding it was that our study was 160 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:50,850 in a way groundbreaking in the sense 161 00:06:56,330 --> 00:06:53,490 this was the official first official 162 00:07:01,250 --> 00:06:56,340 involvement of both astronauts and 163 00:07:06,530 --> 00:07:01,260 cosmonauts in a human study well we all 164 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:06,540 like clothes it's and the so we were 165 00:07:12,740 --> 00:07:08,370 lucky to get the the the extra three 166 00:07:15,500 --> 00:07:12,750 participants and we asked them to set 167 00:07:19,190 --> 00:07:15,510 aside 15 days 15 exercise periods to 168 00:07:22,850 --> 00:07:19,200 wear these exercise clothes and routine 169 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:22,860 t-shirts we allocated six sets of 170 00:07:28,070 --> 00:07:25,290 clothing for them to wear in the 15 days 171 00:07:30,140 --> 00:07:28,080 but when they would get tired of a 172 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:30,150 particular garment they would dispose of 173 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:33,690 it and then pick the next one that was 174 00:07:37,220 --> 00:07:35,250 assigned to them in a particular 175 00:07:40,820 --> 00:07:37,230 sequence each astronaut had his own 176 00:07:45,590 --> 00:07:40,830 sequence between wool and polyester and 177 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:45,600 weld acrylic and none of the astronauts 178 00:07:53,750 --> 00:07:48,930 or cosmos got fully to the end of their 179 00:07:55,250 --> 00:07:53,760 six yeah yeah they did let so they ended 180 00:07:57,260 --> 00:07:55,260 up with a lot of extra clothing up there 181 00:07:59,090 --> 00:07:57,270 in their pantry aboard the space station 182 00:08:01,010 --> 00:07:59,100 it's not a bad problem so it's all about 183 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:01,020 just how long they felt like waiting 184 00:08:04,100 --> 00:08:02,850 right and we also collected that we 185 00:08:06,230 --> 00:08:04,110 collected length of wear data 186 00:08:10,190 --> 00:08:06,240 yeah and we collected perception data 187 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:10,200 with a daily questionnaire and we are in 188 00:08:14,990 --> 00:08:12,810 the process of compiling the 189 00:08:16,850 --> 00:08:15,000 questionnaire data and analyzing it and 190 00:08:19,580 --> 00:08:16,860 sometime in the future hopefully this 191 00:08:21,950 --> 00:08:19,590 year we will have the results from that 192 00:08:23,660 --> 00:08:21,960 study and then I can get some and I can